Brief History:
To my knowledge the pumper replacement plan started in 2002, although I have heard that there were plans started even before that. The original Engine 2 drawing was dated 2002. The MVFD has a spec that is dated February 11, 2003.
In the Winter of 2003, MVFD Officers met with then First Selectman Ed St. John, to discuss the replacement of Engine 2. Mr. St. John expressed a real interest in what he described as a “Global Plan” - solving three problems all at the same time by replacing Engine 2, refurbishing or replacing Engine 4 and Rescue 1. He expressed an interest in bonding the entire project.
Then came the politics. Mr. DeAngelis FOIed the MVFD for Mr. St. John’s Ph.D. documents, presumingly to dig up “dirt” on Mr. St. John, while fighting Town Hall against the Straw Pond Development. The MVFD complied, as was mandated by law, and the relationship between the MVFD and Mr. St. John began to erode. Mr. St. John began a series of attacks against the MVFD and its leadership. No pumper on the horizon.
In 2005, disheartened from the past attacks against the MVFD, many of the MVFD members (certainly not all) chose to support Mrs. Bollard for First Selectman. A bitter campaign ensued, but in the end Mr. St. John won the reelection. Even though Mr. St. John won, he was unable to put his bitterness aside and work with the members of the MVFD. In fact, the exact opposite was about to happen.
In the Spring of 2006, the Chief and Officers of the MVFD appeared at a Selectman’s meeting to ascertain what the status was with plans to replace the pumper. In a series of three meetings with the Selectmen that could be characterized as a bureaucratic wild goose chase, Mr. St. John and Mrs. Strobel voted to form a fire commission, instead of making a decision about replacing the pumper themselves. They outsourced their duties to a group of uninformed, untrained, and politically motivated and appointed individuals to make decisions about lifesaving equipment for this community. Click Here.
The fire commission proved to be an enormous mistake. It did not expedite delivery of a new pumper, but rather was put into place by Mr. St. John and Mrs. Strobel to delay it. In the meantime the cost of the apparatus was continually rising. In November of 2007 the voters rejected the Charter and a permanent fire commission, by voting it down by almost a 2 to 1 ratio.
To further delay the replacement plans, Mr. St. John hired a consultant for $9000.00 to study the Town’s apparatus needs. This was a waste of taxpayer money since Mr. St. John was already well aware of the fact that apparatus needed to be replaced and indicated so in the 2003 meeting with the MVFD.
Early in 2008 the fire commission was dissolved and work was started to pass a Town Budget. The budget finally was voted on, which brings us to the present. The MVFD is still attempting to replace a 27 year old fire engine, a project started in 2002.
Because of the inaction of the previous administration, Middlebury now has an aging fleet of fire apparatus.
Engine 2 27 years old
Engine 3 20 years old
Engine 4 21 years old
Engine 1 17 years old
Rescue 1 30 years old.
Here Is Where We Are Now:
When American LaFrance went Chapter 11, the MVFD went to the Department’s second choice with the same spec; Ferrara Fire Apparatus.
When the local sales representative priced the MVFD spec, the price of the engine came to $505,919.00, which was well above the American LaFrance price. This is the important part here. The National Sales Manager of Ferrara was aware of the LaFrance bid, and was also aware that the MVFD was chiefly an American LaFrance Department. In an effort to break into Middlebury, and to increase Farrara’s presence in New England, he agreed to lower the price of the apparatus to $474,920.00. That is a great deal of savings for the Town. This price is good until December 1, 2008.
Sharp Price Increase Looming:
After December 1, 2008, the company will increase their prices. This would mean that the price of the engine will increase by another $20,000.
On January 1, 2009, NFPA 2009 goes into affect and there will be another price increase of $20,000.00 to $25,000.00.
Not acting now will increase the apparatus price by January 1st 2009, by $40,000.00 to $45,000.00. Middlebury will get the same truck, but pay a whole lot more.
There is already $315,000.00 that has been set aside for purchasing this pumper. The Taxpayers have already voted for these funds, and it does not affect anyone’s taxes. There is $159,000.00 that must be raised to pay for the engine in full. It has been said that this remaining amount can be paid for our of unassigned funds that are already present in the current budget.
The clock is ticking and time is running out. Forcing a referendum will further delay the process and bring the Town dangerously close to the December 1st deadline. Middlebury has a chance to close the deal on a project started in 2002.
When the MVFD started to work with former First Selectman Ed St. John the price of the pumper was $360,000.00. Because of the delay of the past administration, the pumper will cost approximately $114,000.00 more.
In an April 18th, 2005 poll, published on Firehouse.com, with 6827 respondents, only 6% of the responding departments owned a “First Out Engine” older than 20 years.
The apparatus in town is not getting any younger. Further delays will exasperate the problem and will lead to steep tax increases down the road. In addition, ignoring the problem, increases the chance of equipment failure. Engine 3 has already failed once this year on its way to a call. If our apparatus fails at the moment it is needed the most, it becomes a safety issue, and a liability issue for the Town. Firefighter safety and the safety of our residents should be Middlebury’s number one priority.
16 comments:
That is the absolute truth. There are no politics in that statement. There may be a couple of jabs at St. John but that is what really happened.
real simple: we can't afford a $425,000 truck.
Have a fund raiser and sell some other assets that the fd has ($800,000) and you can pay cash for your new truck.
I hate to tell you but the FD has no 800,000. Keep listening to pattie and you to will look like a jerk, get the facts before you open your mouth!!!!!!!! We need knew apparatus for safety reasons, it has nothing to do with politics, boy how I wish we would have a full time dept. then see what happens!!!!!
How can we have fulltime FD ?
we are a town with 6000 people !
we are lucky if we have 1 call a day! .....and thats probably to get a kitten out of a tree with a $500,000 dollar truck !
Mike McCormack advised the Selectmen to delay the purchase further because "the price will go down" in this economy.
Chief Perrotti quickly responded with his knowledge of industry pricing, something McCormack knows nothing about. There are only a small number of fire engine manufacturers, growing smaller as bankruptcies occur. Engines are custom built to requirements, they are not global commodity items. The prices will escalate despite the global economic downturn because of these factors.
Bottom line. The longer we wait the more we will pay, and the greater the risk to our community. Middlebury should get back to a realistic replacement schedule, not politics and grand standing.
hello there is already money set aside for basically the vote will be for 150,000. It it will be paid in cash so that it will not affect the taxpayers pocket. And the fire dept does not have 800,000 so stop spreading your dumb ass lies. 800,000 may go through the accounts but a lot of that gets paid out per year like the circus. You can ask your " Professinal accountant the wicked witch of the west Bollard" to explain that to you since she failed in coming up with anymore ways to reduce the budget
if its $150,000 it will affect the taxpayers. Plus we could use the money "already saved up" to offset a tax increase.
1st it was St.John and his public works trucks now its Perrotti and his fire trucks.
We are a town of 6000 ! we don't need all these trucks. Pumper 1, pumper 17, rescue 37, engine 46, engine 76, Tonkya Toy 45, Tonkya toy 101......etc, etc.
IT'S NOT PERROTTI, IT'S THE MIDDLEBURY FIRE DEPT. The chief has nothing to gain but safety for the people on the dept. So once again get your facts right!!!!! I guess what we need is something to happen to one of the guys on the dept. and than let the town get sued and than maybe you will get it, it's not hard to understand!!!!
>>>“we are a town with 6000 people ! we are lucky if we have 1 call a day! .....and thats probably to get a kitten out of a tree with a $500,000 dollar truck !”<<<<
That is incorrect. As of July 2007, the population of Middlebury has risen 10.3% since the last census in the year 2000. The population is actually 7,252. Lots of new developments in Town since 2000. Hardly a time to weaken or down-scale your FD.
The fire truck exists for that one day that you really need it, not for all the other days you don't.
yea and we have plenty of them to do that across 2 firehouses.
offset tax increases. Thats what we did the past three years because of bollard and now we have no money left. In fact this town has been undertaxed for 5 years. What if someone gets hurt because of faulty equipment. The lawsuit alone will be more than a million. Also if we don't replace our trucks we are in jeopardy of losing our iso rating. Guess what that will raise your taxes. You can't let things go. Its well past the point. There is no point to reason with you because will always say no. This is not about Paul because he doesn't ride the engines to calls. I do and im telling you that as a volunteer it is well past the time to replace the engine. They look shiny but they are falling apart. I don't see pat volunteering for anything except his own agenda.
oh stop ....."undertaxed for years".?????? hello
we have one of the highest tax rates IN THE STATE ! per capita. look at the data.
we paid for the St. John Construction Co and now you want us to pay for the Perriotti Fire Co. with a fleet of new Mac trucks for the 0.5 calls per day.
GO TO HELL, you have NO CLUE to what you are talking about!!!!!!!!!!
Automobiles are considered Antique if 25 years or older. Many of the ones you see at car shows are bright and shiny - beautifully preserved. They are brought out for shows but seldom used for demanding driving duties.
Last week, in the Republican American we read about such a vehicle - beautifully maintained - where the wheel fell off on the road.
I think we all would agree that for out family vehicles we would want to have them be as new as possible for demanding use on the highway with family and children. We certainly would not want our primary vehicle to be over 20 years old, no matter how well maintained or shiny it was.
How is emergency fire equipment any different?
That's why we have a vehicle replacement plan for such equipment. What happened to Middlebury's plan? I'll tell you. Doctor Edward B. St. John personally scuttled that plan. Plenty of money for new pinstriped green trucks to bring gravel to build cluster housing, but nothing for the fire department.
Don't blame Paul Perrotti for playing politics. Paul was asked to produce a vehicle replacement plan. He did it. He's championed it year after year. And year after year he has been derailed by Ed or his cronies.
Check this out.
Italy police are driving Lamborghinis No lie.
So what is Middlebury's problem?
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